Wednesday, 19 April 2017

Summerhayes 50/50 match, Longs Lake, 17-4-17

On the bank holidays Summerhayes have started to do a 50/50 match at a cost of £26 as opposed to the usual £21, well I think I am not so keen on this idea as you pay your dues, which basically puts £9.50 or so into each pot of pay-outs (carp only, silvers only) but you cannot double bubble.

So in reality you have 3 choices, 2 are straight forward in that you fish for carp or silvers for the 6hrs, the 3rd option is a little more of a chancer in that you could set your stall out for the hypothetical perfect match, catch a few quick carp, then some silvers, then plunder the carp and hope you have covered your arse by securing a pick-up place in either or both (no double bubble). This option for the most part, as I see it at Summerhayes, would more than often leave you a little behind the pace in either category, especially at this venue where the carp are averaging 2-3lb or so and the silvers is often won with about 10-13lb. At some venues, Viaduct springs to mind, you catch plenty of silvers on carp lines and vice-versa and people frame in both with 'accidentals' on reasonably regular basis.
I don't know, I need to get my mind around it, or rather the fact you are chucking a tenner in a pot you have no intentions of trying for maybe? If you could double up then it would all make sense.

Maybe we need to start going down the optional silvers route at matches more so? So rather than £20 all in, say make it £15 and £5 optional or even do a 50/50 split, peg fee and two equal optionals? Actually this is something I have been thinking about more recently, on clubbies I can see the default and no double bubble making sense as the spread payouts keeps anglers interested, but on opens, I don't know. It also seems to be a 'South-West' thing too, as I cannot remember seeing the silvers pools having separate pots up north?
I see Windmill, Viaduct and Avalon and some Sedges matches allow double bubble, except sections money (understandable).

Thoughts? I think I have confused myself....also don't the silvers anglers get the short straw by paying a larger chunk of entry to the overall monies or does the fact less people are targeting silvers negate that?......You should all sleep well tonight xx

Anyways I digress, back to my match. Only 9 of us as the Wickhams had ventured to Shiplate where Glynn did well.
I drew peg 8 on Longs, I don't have a clue if it is good or what is the target, silvers or carp?
It looked fine, but only odd plippy roach showing. But apparently the pegs 1-5 had been ok for silvers and 14 to 17 better for carp. Plus the roadside is consistent for the carp.

Peg 8 Longs
My 2 edges were reedy and looked more hazardous than I would like, those little carp are like mad and will dive into them right away (as I found out). The island was between 13m and I had 14m to the point of it.
Jim Jenner was over on peg 3 and to my left I had 2 empty pegs as 11 was next in.

A few rigs, one for silvers off in the direction of Jim (groundbait) and at the same angle to my left (micros).
An edge rig for both sides and tight over using meat.
A shallow pellet rig for across, off the point of the island and at 2+2 in front.
A deep pellet rig for 2+2 and off the point of the island where the depth was the same.

At the all-in I fed the spots in the peg and for some reason I was convinced I would catch on the short pellet lines.....an hour spent on this gave me 2 carp, one shallow, one on the deck. Jim had caught a couple and lost a couple fishing across. It was soon the 2nd hour....
I could see the reeds on my left full of fish, so I tried here but was landing as many as I lost and it was getting tedious, landing maybe 5 or 6 in quick succession including a 6lb bonus.
The fish were soon on edge and bites came less frequently and when I did hook one they'd be a smidgen quicker into the reeds.
A look down my right gave me a couple but it was not so busy with activity.

A few ventures onto the silvers lines only gave me a few roach and a 6oz skimmer, so I semi-binned them as it was 3hrs in and I guessed it would be a struggle to get 10lb from them, carp came from them though....!! But I looked to be well behind Jim, Bill Hopping and a couple of guys over on the road bank had gone for another net....I was and had too many quiet spells all round.
The next couple of hours was just spent picking up odd fish from the edges and off the silvers line, the short-pellet line had a few bubbles, but I tried there without action either on the deck or off. I decided with 90 minutes left to feed meat over my pellet line. So a cup of meat went in and the array of rigs went back on their winders and I was left with a solitary short meat rig.
My clicker showed a shade over 40lb.

The last 80 minutes or so went well as I just sat on my meat line and had fish regularly until the all-out, my clicker in the 1st net showed 70lb and probably had 20-30lb at the most in the second net, but I knew I never had what at least 3 others had so I tipped the fish back. But I had learned a few things during the day for sure.

I helped Pete with the weigh-in, and as expected it was Bill who won the carp pot, and the silvers was won off the golden peg so they had a nice £96 bonus....

Results:
Carp:
1st, Bill Hopping, 145lb 12oz, p17 (1st carp payout)
2nd, Roy Hughes, 140lb 13oz, p34 (2nd carp precedent)
3rd, Martin Addicot, 121lb 14oz, p30
Silvers:
1st, Mark Lehay, 9lb 9oz, peg 19 (golden peg and 1st silvers payout)
2nd, Roy Hughes, 8lb 3oz, p34
3rd, Rob Birch, 7lb 2oz, p37 (2nd silvers payout by default)

weights



So an interesting day, frustrating I suppose, I spent too long faffing and trying to make things work when maybe I would have fared better doing what I finished up on. Hindsight.....!!

Apex next Sunday with the Pawlett crew, I hope it fishes like I know it can, but I think with around 30 on there it will be patchy.

Until then, sleep well....
Lee

Avalon Teams of 3, Final Round 16-4-17

No fishing for me on Friday or Saturday, so it was a Sunday and Monday combo for me this last long weekend.

Sunday, well it was the final round of the Teams of 3 at Avalon, Myself, Steve and Eric Fouracre had really nothing to play for just try and nick some of the money on the day. Sadly that never went to plan.
The weather was rather blustery and in general. windy, but at least it was set to stay dry.  Some teams were not present so there were a few anglers covering their spots including Dom Sullivan, Matt Culpin and Jonny Page.

Steve drew our pegs, I was on 44, usually a decent peg having won a couple rounds and has a gap with boards on the island. Eric was up on 26 which has been a consistent peg and Steve on 11 which can be good for silvers.
Peg 44 at Avalon
A lead rod and pellet wag were ready, then I made a silvers rig to fish over 2 lines (micros on one, groundbait on the other), a topkit rig for caster down to my right and a rig for down next to empty peg 45.
For company I had Keith Bilder on my right and Tom Thick on my left, I also had my good buddy Paul Wharton in my section on peg 48 in the corner and I had a quid with Mr Culpin on peg 37.

My shortened version of the day went like:
1st hour, nothing except a few rudd down the edge and one lost waggler.
2nd hour I had a single carp on the drop on my silvers rig, only a small 3lb fish. Plus a skimmer and 2 roach.
3rd hour gave me nothing as everyone except Paul down in the corner struggled at this end of the lake, Tom had 3 carp, but decent ones plus a couple big skimmers. Keith had 5 carp,
4th hour saw me land a  carp on the pellet wag, but it was nigh on impossible to feed and you couldn't keep the rig still in the wind, so it was a case of thrashing the water to a foam, both me and Tom were doing this.
5th hour saw another single carp, I didn't bother with the silvers as Vic across on peg 9 was getting a decent skimmer each drop and looked on for 30lb.
Last hour was fishless. Tom ended up on 3 also and 2 big skimmers, Keith had 6 or 7 carp and Paul had nearly 70lb and probably won the section. I had 3 small carp, 2 smallish skimmers and 1lb of bits.

I packed up, but collected a quid from Matt who didn't weigh, but my quid went to Tom, who promptly gave it to Shawn Kittridge......
I didn't watch most of the weigh in, but the sheet showed 23, Tom Mangnal have 90lb+ and 24, Luke Pester (who's drew some pegs this series) on 24 have 115lb. Jamie Cook had 57lb+ and there were a few 30lb-ish sort of weights.
I cant remember what I had, I thing my 3 carp went nearly 14lb and 3lb or so of silvers. Which was not last in section, but may have been 2nd or 3rd last, I don't know. Eric and Steve never faired much better in their sections.

Results:
1st Luke Pester Fu Fighters 116.07 peg 24
2nd Tom Mangnall Mosella UK 93.11 peg 23
3rd Paul Wharton Thyers 68.15 peg 48
4th Jamie Cooke Sedges 57.13 peg 19
5th Paul Lock Happy hookers 45.10 peg 30
6th Vic Bush Mosella UK 40.15 peg 7


Silvers
Vic Bush, Mosella UK, 32.10 - peg 7


Teams
1st - Mosella UK - 27pts
2nd - Thyers - 23pts
3rd  -Fu Fighters - 20pts -165.06
4th - Sedges - 20pts - 109.03
5th - Somerset Carpenters - 17pts
6th - Happy Hookers - 14pts


Final League:
1st: Fu Fighters 41pts
2nd: Sedges 36pts
3rd: Thyers 35pts - 410.10
4th: Mosella UK 35pts - 399.07
5th: Somerset Carpenters 33pts
6th: Mosella Gold 32pts
7th: Over 50`s 27pts
8th: Happy hookers 13pts
9th: Doddys 10pts  -147.01
10th: Wickham wanderers 10pts - 144.02


Overall champion was Luke Pester, Fu Fighters - 45pts

So a rather let-down series for us after going close last year, but some pants draws early on defo cost us and it can be hard to fight back. The top 3 spaces went to corner pegs, which can happen in windy conditions, like it had been for a few days.
Well done to all, especially the top 3 teams and Luke. Plus well done to my carp-disliking mate Paul on coming 3rd.

Until next time, take care.
Lee